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you know all of what you just heard is

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very interesting Held's a colleague

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we've been at this for decades literally

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and what I'm going to suggest is that

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while the story that came out in New

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York Times said Wow is it wonderful and

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new I'm gonna tell you about some things

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that are probably not so new yeah this

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is some young guy who was in the

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Pentagon and decided to do that I'll

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tell you about my position just so you

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know UFOs by definition must be real

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that doesn't state what they are the

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evidence that supports the physical

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evidence supporting you know the reality

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I think is absolutely overwhelming and

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my bottom line in fact lastly in the

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book is that whatever this is it is

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terribly complex I also do all my things

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with a bias so you know up front a lot

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of people don't know what their bias to

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of mine is in mine is that when you look

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at all this wide range of phenomena from

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you know remote viewing near-death

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studies post-mortem communication even

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interspecies communication

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psychokinesis and even cryptozoology and

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you are follows I think they're all

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connected and it consciousness is a key

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piece they've been involved in studies

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with most of them so here's a good news

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and the bad news as you keep saying you

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know what the government knows what is

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the government here you know first of

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all you have to understand the

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complexity of the government we have

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three branches and the government is you

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know the executive legislative and

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judicial when you start looking at what

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does that mean in the pure number of

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people civilian or talking federal

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government level about 2.7 million

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civilians in there more than two million

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additional in the military both active

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and Reserve well the years about a 10%

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figure what we know from various surveys

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is about 10% of the population believe

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they have seen a UFO begin at the

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broader phenomenon you get up in the 70%

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level who have in it that means a whole

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lot of these people have probably seen

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UFOs but from an institutional

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perspective most some don't care okay

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when you get institutionally don't care

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but it doesn't mean that a few people

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and the selected group that Hal just

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talked about do care and some of them

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passionately here's this one you're one

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of my favorite lines is the Pentagon

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says well the Pentagon says nothing it's

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a big stone building with you know

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twenty five thirty thousand people in

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there that come with a wide variety of

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belief systems and experiences and

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contrary to popular belief like the

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government it is not a megalithic

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organization where everybody agrees on

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everything and some of them you know

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they humanly disagree what am i as I did

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this one up to look it turns out that

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there are now 962 field grade our flag

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grade officers meeting generals and

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admirals within the Department of

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Defense I extrapolated and looked at

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held mentioned the end of Blue Book

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content we'll come to that in a minute

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my guess is conservatively there's at

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least 6,000 general officers applied

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grade officers since that time if that

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many have seen UFOs book one of the

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things I mentioned I talked to the

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director of one of these three-letter

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agencies who said a well this is going

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back a we don't do that B I'll tell you

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about the ones I saw so you have a

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director of an agency who has personal

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experience that does not

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translate into institutional

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responsibilities so my question is not

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why do these studies pop up is why

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aren't there a lot more now part of the

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problem is this oh this is a ranger is

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killed on his fourteenth combat tour and

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so what I ask is from a DoD perspective

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just where is it that you think UFOs fit

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on their priority lists being that we

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have been constantly in conflict since

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2001 there's a the longest Wars that

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we've had so there is an issue of

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prioritization one of the things I think

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that's important is that very few people

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understand how large organizations work

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and that's really a key issue and a lot

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of critical thinking is lacking in many

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many areas so the key question from the

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government's perspective is compared to

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what with all of things that are going

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on and the same thing even with UFOs

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most people believe in UFOs a very small

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segment think it's really important so

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most people you know say okay that's

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real but so what not really important so

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about big organizations and the bottom

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line is what I really want to get to

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here this is how they work top

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priorities are of course retaining power

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of the Golden Rule meaning who has the

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gold makes the rules and their logic

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based organizations but at the bottom

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line is in the US government there are

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no departments of good ideas so whoever

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has responsibility here has to take you

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know interest in these areas and fit it

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into their institutional

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responsibilities um when I say this is

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not new

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1980s I actually created a group very

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similar to what lissandra and others

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brought up um we had Army Navy Air Force

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all participants the intelligence

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community from various agencies across

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the board al was one and a number of our

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friends who had you know from aerospace

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industry all actively involved they all

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had top-secret STI level clearances

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be all males had to know who you were

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what we expected and primarily that was

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nobody's minding the store

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um tell mentioned the accountant report

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damage that was done by that it was a

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very cursory report not well done of the

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material inside actually the body of the

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text does not match the summary

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recommendations in conclusions written

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by Condon but the top line is he was

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right the question to Compton was not

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are UFOs real it was is this a threat

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and haven't been abated so you have to

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say Connolly know if it's probably not a

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threat this was our sentence suspected

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the scenario an area of disagreement and

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some others something is true but it was

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that Roswell was real looked at and said

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what the hell don't know what this is

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now here are some actual slides that

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were done but I can say at least 30

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years ago what you'll see are the

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parallels between the current problems

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that it was a threat to potential for

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cover and deception the advanced

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technology we were looking at that and

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one that hal mentioned in this case the

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Soviet this is bad old days the Soviet

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breakthrough would be unacceptable

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didn't matter said weather

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not can't tell that is important let me

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apologize the people not steeped in UFO

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and I'll be glad to explain these cases

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I'm going to hit some of them feel

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pretty quickly but what did what did we

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see so again we're talking 1980s but

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accelerating fast acceleration zero to

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four thousand or instantaneously a right

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angle turns as you know with g-forces at

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29 stealth something that appears here

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that you know you know period appears

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elect electrical systems in some cases

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without damage eyewitness reports

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hundreds you know and it varied from

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individuals to thousands of people

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income it's just a flash of you know

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light passing light well sometimes the

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durations lasted ill from months to you

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know and recur over days to months and

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distance pay everybody thinks is a

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bright light in the sky some of these

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mean the one I touched highly credible

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witnesses physical evidence again thirty

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physical evidence already and obtained

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ninety minutes for the planes flying

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around multiple radars picking it up and

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a signals intercept it still don't have

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no one highly researched and bottom

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regime flying and headed down towards

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don't understand it I went into NORAD

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headquarters and asked you a question

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I said you know do you see things fly

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around very fast accelerates sharp turns

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they said UFOs yes um it kind of had two

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common but I said since items it's 280

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thousands of reports logged into NORAD

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cache Landrum is a case you don't know

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it two women a boy seriously radiated

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the severity and onset of symptoms

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the army had a friend of mine who

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investigated it there's no doubt that

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they were physically damaged but it

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wasn't us we were getting sued as if it

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was an experimental craft the Japanese

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airline flight this is another one

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it they reported something as big as an

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aircraft carrier flying up with them

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germane one of the things I got it had

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friends came back to me with a bunch of

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cases these were done by Alaskan Scouts

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and the point is that they understand

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the environment but the key issue was

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the reports were sitting in a drawer and

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somebody who knew I had personal net

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just picked him up and sent him back as

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opposed to there's some place to send

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this stuff this is a kind of one of the

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drawings that came from you had these

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big craft women said but they knew is it

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was flying against the wind and even saw

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clouds that were going as witness

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is one books written on this but the

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point was that it this is one that we

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had a duration of three years got to the

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point where people went out every night

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it was so common to sit on the beach and

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watch for sightings we had the Iranian

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case 76 this is one where two aircraft

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their American Air Force went in

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approached the craft had had been seen

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again multiple radars vector din as the

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approach he said when I went to fire the

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this had spun out and came away like

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electronic system came back up done a

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lot of work and directed energy weapons

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I know how to shut you down I don't know

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how to shut you down and bring you back

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up again so that was well beyond

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capability and again this is in 76 this

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is a case in 86 over some Paolo the it

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went on for three hours lots of jets

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invol the key issue that was different

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here is the air Minister went public and

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said yeah verily this happened most of

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time you know such officials remain

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silence missiles now this is a famous

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case faded giant we had missiles that

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were shut down two silos one six out of

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eight another system 10 out of 10

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missiles so upskirt they law if

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everybody's you might be expect lots of

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studies done on it came away with have

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no idea what did that we weren't alone

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this is one that Georgians have picked

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up when he was in the Soviet Union came

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back since a case the difference in

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their says you have a UFO flew over and

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sat there for about seven or eight hours

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hundreds of witnesses and all of a

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sudden their missiles started spinning

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up getting ready to launch and say my

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god were about to

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World War three and we have no way to

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stop it this coin case is one that's

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really interesting in that helicopter

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flying lawn for people on suddenly gets

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picked up and lifted to consider yup you

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have all of the crew that's on the

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helicopter you have the ground

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observations again Bentwaters I think if

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you're not familiar with it or

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Woodbridge this is one of the cases you

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had you had 60 it are probably 80 now

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highly credible witnesses um no the it

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happened again over a period of days

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walked in and deputy base commander

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along things went out to resolve it he

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said you know notice five outside that

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and all of a sudden here's an object is

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floating through the trees splits into

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five pieces go zipping off in different

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direction to fly over them and shoot a

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laser beam in his feet again highly

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credible witnesses many and we've now

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come up with radar sighting to it in

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Belgium we had many many of them um a

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major problem areas signal-to-noise

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meaning can't sort out what's what's

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real and what's not real

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um there was material samples what's the

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chain of custody on them um al went

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through most of these you know signed

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grudges or the historical pieces and

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mine went from basically 84 to 88 the

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key issue though contrary to popular we

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were never stopped I was at very very

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high levels I did the pregnancy test so

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but hauless asked for something and

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always got it and with one notable

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exception all almost supportive now one

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of the things that happen SDI was one of

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the biggest programs out there was a

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five billion dollar program so he

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decided to transition and ask for money

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um here's a guy who's monitoring space

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clearly when we walked in I had folks

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with me for

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CIA dia NSA and Air Force Space Command

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and Lola he had no idea what the topic

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was believe his eyes glazed over and

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within a few seconds after we started I

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enter started the introduction you go

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the wait a minute who are you guys

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really um but this point was that he had

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gone into this and we were done asking

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for money and his bottom line was I

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can't do that and it wasn't the agent

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wasn't you hadn't got his attention an

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interest the point was if I get caught

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spending money in this area they're not

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going to take that money wait they're

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going to take a lot more the assumption

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is that you're not a good Stewart the

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Nimitz case is interesting we saw that

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with the hell's presentation all those

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things are real but the point is that's

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not really new that had been around for

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you know those characteristics had been

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observed for decades I did this to

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compare the study of between what we did

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and what held a news really only a

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couple of areas where you see different

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but in all cases you have credible

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witnesses multi-sensory comprar

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confirmation unique materials

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unexplained maneuvers high strangeness

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certainly different one difference was

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we got funding Luke got very modest

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funding and lots of personal interest we

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had no institution again many people who

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were individually interested based on

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their background and what they had seen

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but know one of the key issues though no

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central authority I understand that's

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improving a bit but one of the things we

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had looked forward of the reports all go

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together

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the bottom line is no solution I think I

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would say they've got some hints from a

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physics perspective but as far as real

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solution to these issues not there so

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what does a government be people think

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the government should be involved in

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this what do they bring advanced

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censors brainpower from labs credible

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witness sometimes modest funding but

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almost certainly they're going to bring

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a classification aspect that a lot of

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this is risk avoidance I can say

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institutionally they do not do and today

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I will argue than many of them see this

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is a high risk not from the up own

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perspective but from a public-relations

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of perspective so where do we go I put

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up the Human Genome Project because this

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is what I think we need the human genome

405
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they had to study 39 or 3.3 billion

406
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pairs they had multiple agencies

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involved it ran from 1990 to the 2003

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before they were able to actually get

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completion at a cost of about three

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billion dollars here's what I think is

411
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deeded I think we need an issue on a

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global scope should government be

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involved yeah probably to some that you

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need top scientists I think what the

415
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project is called for was something

416
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looks like the human genome problem

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project on steroids and with that I

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guess is two orders of magnitude more

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money meaning it would be 300 billion

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and it takes it I also don't have a lot

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of expectation to it so it's a

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phenomenon that's a global it's

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definitely real and massive amounts of

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evidence where we're gonna go they don't

425
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know by the point has been down this

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road before many times but moving up to

427
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a front-burner item except for

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thanks Johnny

429
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so I really take this issue of

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signal-to-noise problem I think it's a

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very pertinent and in the International

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Monetary Fund in April came out with

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reportable the largest main problems

434
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facing the planet right now in an issue

435
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to climate change and labor market

436
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disruptions do that artificial

437
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intelligence and boxing like that one of

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the major multitude find was what they

439
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called reality fatigue and it's that

440
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when you get so much information we're

441
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creating these kind of cesspools of self

442
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propagated propaganda and the era of the

443
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big news or you can just kind of tent to

444
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whatever signal and you find the most

445
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salient it's really hard to suss out

446
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what reality actually is and someone a

447
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character like yourself is you know has

448
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it's kind of by personality and then in

449
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the opinions of everyone rather like

450
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either half of people around more and I

451
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don't happen

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you don't have some conspiracy I got a

453
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question here so I guess it's like when

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we're ready to move forward in guesses

455
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how do we get some kind of stable ground

456
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because you've you're identified one

457
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niche which is this governments longer

458
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but even as a community like remote

459
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viewing we can provoke you and think

460
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that we're signaling some target we're

461
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just targeting our own conspiratorial

462
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mindsets you know so it's really good

463
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luck my advice I deal with the skeptics

464
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are quite about and my advice to the

465
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skeptical community is do nothing

466
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because the UFO these others will self

467
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Emily I've got my UFO briefings I have a

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slide that says you know there's no

469
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lower limits to crazy and I don't care

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how crazy a story you put out there and

471
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when you go to the many of the UFO

472
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conferences those are the folks who have

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the most attendees and it is I mean it

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can be wild and wonderful and problem

475
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particular when you get to the media who

476
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tries to report on it for them as to

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sort out was not and it's often the

478
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loudest wheel and you know sex with

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aliens is one of the things that cells

480
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and the reptilians and like I said I

481
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don't care how crazy your story is so

482
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now this is by the way from SSE

483
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perspective this has been one of the

484
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issues along how do you raise reality

485
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you know of these events to a point

486
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where it is taken seriously and

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particularly in a venue where truth no

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longer matters we're no longer fact data

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fact driven and that that's a societal

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hello thank you for a great talk I'm

491
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curious what your opinion is of Stephen

492
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Frears disclosure project and

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not sure how to answer this politically

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correct but watch your wallet it would

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be the bottom line yeah now Frank

496
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everything Grier sends out ends with

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send me money results are exceedingly

498
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limited so caveat emptor I'm sorry I

499
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miss him I don't hear well I'm behind

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the speaker so does somebody want to say

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me what I did what the question you see

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an article is coming out Patrick's

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publishing I guess next week

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what's a threat I mean that's a very

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subjective issue I'll raise the one by

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the way when I did the study we raised

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things as threat and we did that to be

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within the institutional boundaries if

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you're going to allocate money the

510
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Department of Defense is just that it is

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allocated against threats of some

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various nature so if you want to fence

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money you'd better label things as a

514
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threat how people see them is very

515
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unfortunately we now live in a

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fear-based society as well so kind of

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across the board we try to scare the

518
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hell out of people for every camp any

519
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reason

520
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again another societal issue but what's

521
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what one of my lives is just because you

522
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don't understand that does not mean it's

523
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a threat I've unfortunately you know

524
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many of these things are couched in

525
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those terms if you don't understand it

526
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it must be a threat one of the issues I

527
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get into a long discussion again with

528
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Hallam there's yesterday as a program

529
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manager how much money or anybody on the

530
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government now how much money you're

531
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going to allocate against finding issues

532
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where you have a very low probability of